Ryder 15" vsd black, extra wide saddle, really lovely little saddle that iv done alot of dressage comps in, will be sad to see go!
17" (just under, could be ok for a 16.5) is unbranded but English leather dressage saddle! 99% sure is a bespoke barnsby. Is used but is a lovely comfortable saddle that now all my youngsters have outgrown. Narrow. Lovely external big kneeblocks.
Open to sensible offers on both, msg me for more pics! Both can come with stirrups and leathers, poss girth depends on size your needing.